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Welcome to the HappyCichlids.com Humane Treatment of Fish Forum.  Please join the discussion and help get the word out about the horrible mistreatment of fish that goes on in the industry and how you can help.

If you need help with sick fish please include the following in your post. It will allow us to get you a solution much faster

What are your water parameters? Temperature, PH, GH, KH, Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates
What is your maintenance and water change schedule?
Exactly what species of fish are they?
What are you feeding them? How often?
Can you post links to any photos?

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2010-09-10 05:59:15

Posted by: Les



On: 2010-01-27 19:42:11

Post 1761
Help -- sick cichlid

Hi there
I am frustrated as my big 12" cichlid is not getting better despite all efforts.
He has a large "wound" under his side fin that will not heal
He was attacked before by a fish that is no longer
in the tank and responded within 2 days to melafix and Pima fix
This time no such luck. I am not even sure it was an
injury -- there is no other fish in the tank that could do this.
I treated with the mela fix and Pima fix for a week - wound getting worse
I then got bifuran + and am on my 3rd day and while
it doesn't seem to be worse, it shows no improvement.
Did a 25% water change every day as specified.

Tank is 40gall
80degrees
ammonia - between 0 and 0.5
ph - 7.2
alk - 120-180
hardness - 150
nitrite - 0
nitrate - 50
In the middle of all of this my filter died - had a fluval 305
added back up filter which hangs on back of tank
turned off fluval 2 days later and have new eheim professional 11
2026 ready to go
wanted to wait before adding thatto this complicated mess!
Help
I have pics but not sure how to post
Les

Les


Posted by: Ryan



On: 2010-01-28 22:58:12

Post 1762
Re: Help -- sick cichlid

Les,

The first thing that I would do is try to get the nitrate down to under 20ppm. The pitting in their faces is typically a result of high nitrate. Contrary to what a lot of people say, a high nitrate concentration will poison fresh water fish. I keep mine under 20ppm. Ideally 10ppm.

The only way to do that is with water changes.

Do you have a way to pre-condition water?
http://happycichlids.com/Tank_Setup_and_Maintenance/Water_Conditioning_and_Prefiltering.html

To do more than 25% a day you'll need to go the High Quality method and that will require some infrastructure.

Once you stabilize the fish and the nitrate a fish that large in a tank that small, you'll probably have to change 50% of the water at least 2 or 3 times a week. He should probably be in a 75 gallon or larger.

Are you sure that your ammonia is 0 - .5? It should be 0. /Any/ ammonia is bad and indicates you don't have enough biological filtration media.

The other thing that I would do is put him on an antibiotic for external infections and add 1 tbs salt per 5 gallons. Pre-mix it in a separate container and add the total amount of salt slowly over a whole day. This helps to disturb the bacteria.

Make sure if you are changing water that it has the same salinity or you will shock the fish.

You could also try a salt bath just prior to starting the antibiotics, that is if the fish is strong enough. If so, it will help to kill the bacteria.
http://happycichlids.com/Freshwater_Disease_Identification_and_Treatement/Salt_Baths.html

I hope this helps!
      
-- Ryan Chapin
HappyCichlids.com

  



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